2008 के हमारे सबसे पसंदीदा कार्यक्रमों में से एक 'स्लोट्रेन' स्टोर में हुआ हमारा शो था। हमने सीधे सैन फ्रांसिस्को से गाड़ी चलाई, स्टोर के पिछले हिस्से में जाकर अपनी गाड़ी रोकी, अपना पूरा साजो-सामान अंदर खींचा और अपनी नई एल्बम 'रुक' को शुरुआत से अंत तक बजाया—और उन्होंने हमें ऐसा करने दिया।
One of our very favorite shows of 2008 was our Slowtrain instore. We drove straight from San Francisco, pulled up to the back of the store, dragged our entire setup inside and played our new album, Rook, start-to-finish - and they let us get away with it.
One of our very favorite shows of 2008 was our Slowtrain instore. We drove straight from San Francisco, pulled up to the back of the store, dragged our entire setup inside and played our new album, Rook, start-to-finish - and they let us get away with it.
यह शायद इस बात का परिणाम हो कि मेरा पालन-पोषण एपिस्कोपल चर्च में हुआ है, लेकिन मुझे संस्कारों, रंगमंच (थिएटर) और बार-बार बिल्कुल एक ही काम को दोहराने के महत्व से एक अलग ही लगाव है। इसलिए मुझे सचमुच यह जानना बहुत अच्छा लगता है कि मैं शो के दौरान हर एक छोटी बात क्या करने वाला हूँ।
It may be a product of me being raised in episcopal church, but I have a love for ritual and theater and the significance of doing the exact same thing over and over. So I really love knowing every little thing I'm going to do during a show.
It may be a product of me being raised in episcopal church, but I have a love for ritual and theater and the significance of doing the exact same thing over and over. So I really love knowing every little thing I'm going to do during a show.
मुझे अपने गानों के पुराने वर्शन पसंद हैं—उनमें अच्छी चीजें हैं, लेकिन मुझे लगता है कि नए वर्शन में जो अच्छी बातें हैं, वे पुरानी वाली कमियों पर भारी पड़ जाती हैं। रिकॉर्ड के पहले वर्शन में जो एक धुंधलापन था, वह असल में हमारा इरादा नहीं था। उसका एक सपना जैसा अहसास जरूर है, लेकिन मुझे लगता है कि नए वर्शन में और बोनस डिस्क में उस अहसास को दूसरे तरीकों से संभाल कर रखा गया है।
I do like the old versions of our songs - there are good things in them, but I think that the good things that happen in the new ones kind of outweigh that. The murkiness of the first version of the record was not really what we'd intended. It has sort of a dream-like quality, but I feel like that has been preserved in other ways in the newer versions, as well as the bonus disc.
I do like the old versions of our songs - there are good things in them, but I think that the good things that happen in the new ones kind of outweigh that. The murkiness of the first version of the record was not really what we'd intended. It has sort of a dream-like quality, but I feel like that has been preserved in other ways in the newer versions, as well as the bonus disc.
जब आप कोई रिकॉर्ड बनाते हैं, तो शायद आप अपने तयशुदा निशाने पर ठीक-ठीक न पहुँच पाएं। साथ ही, एक वक्त के बाद आपको उसे जाने देना होता है और उस पर भरोसा करना पड़ता है। मुझे याद है कि तब ऐसा लगा था कि हम अपनी उम्मीदों पर पूरी तरह खरे नहीं उतर पाए, या वह रिकॉर्ड उस स्तर का नहीं बन पाया। साथ ही, यह देखना बहुत अच्छा था कि इसे लेकर लोगों की प्रतिक्रियाएँ बहुत सकारात्मक थीं और लोग इसका आनंद ले रहे थे, जिसे देखकर मैंने सोचा, "चलो, शायद यह अच्छी ही बात हुई कि मुझे ठीक वही नहीं मिला जो मैं चाहता था।" अब हम इसी बात को परख रहे हैं।
When you make a record, you probably are not going to hit exactly what you were aiming for. You also have to let go at a certain point, and just trust it. I remember feeling we had fallen short, or that it had fallen short. At the same time it was great to see a good critical reaction to it, and to hear people were enjoying it, which made me think, "Well, maybe it's a good thing I didn't get exactly what I wanted." Now we're testing that theory.
When you make a record, you probably are not going to hit exactly what you were aiming for. You also have to let go at a certain point, and just trust it. I remember feeling we had fallen short, or that it had fallen short. At the same time it was great to see a good critical reaction to it, and to hear people were enjoying it, which made me think, "Well, maybe it's a good thing I didn't get exactly what I wanted." Now we're testing that theory.
मुझे ऐसा लगा कि हमारा पिछला रिकॉर्ड हमारे लिए वाकई एक बड़ा कदम आगे की ओर था। यह देखकर मुझे बहुत खुशी हुई कि कुछ अन्य लोगों ने भी यही बात कही—कि यह एक बिल्कुल नया और अलग प्रयोग था, कि यह कहीं अधिक मौलिक था, और इसमें अपनी एक अलग ताकत थी। मैंने इन बातों को बहुत गहराई से महसूस किया था, यह हमारा अब तक का सबसे बेहतरीन और मुकम्मल रिकॉर्ड है।
I felt like the last record was a real step forward for us. I was very pleased to see some people saying the same things - that it was a real departure, that it was much more individual, that it sort of a power of its own. I really did feel those things very strongly, it's our most realized record.
I felt like the last record was a real step forward for us. I was very pleased to see some people saying the same things - that it was a real departure, that it was much more individual, that it sort of a power of its own. I really did feel those things very strongly, it's our most realized record.
एक तरफ चुपचाप बैठकर पियानो बजाना और इर्द-गिर्द थिरकना, और इसके विपरीत मंच के आगे खड़े होकर गाना—इन दोनों अनुभवों का अहसास बिल्कुल अलग होता है।
It's a very different feeling just sitting around the side, playing piano, and dancing around as opposed to standing in front and singing.
It's a very different feeling just sitting around the side, playing piano, and dancing around as opposed to standing in front and singing.
मुझे आज भी हर बार मंच पर जाने से पहले थोड़ी घबराहट महसूस होती है। इसके अलावा, मंच पर जाने से ठीक एक मिनट पहले मुझे बहुत तेज़ नींद आने लगती है, ऐसा लगता है जैसे मैं अभी सो जाँऊँगा। मैं इसे समझा नहीं सकता। ऐसा लगता है जैसे, "इस शो को करने के लिए ऊर्जा कहाँ से आएगी?" और फिर अचानक आप मंच पर कदम रखते हैं और ऊर्जा आ जाती है, ऐसा लगता है जैसे वह आपका इंतज़ार कर रही हो।
I still get stage fright every time. I also feel very, very sleepy about a minute before we go on. Like I feel like I'm going to fall asleep. I can't explain it. It's sort of like, "Where's the energy going to come from to play this show?" Then all of a sudden you step up and there it is, it's like it's waiting for you.
I still get stage fright every time. I also feel very, very sleepy about a minute before we go on. Like I feel like I'm going to fall asleep. I can't explain it. It's sort of like, "Where's the energy going to come from to play this show?" Then all of a sudden you step up and there it is, it's like it's waiting for you.
टूर के बीच में बिना किसी रिकॉर्ड लेबल के होना बहुत अजीब था। दूसरी तरफ, इसने हमें तुरंत कुछ करने पर मजबूर कर दिया। मेरा मतलब है, मैं दुखों में डूबा नहीं रहा। मैंने सोचा, "ठीक है, हम किसे ईमेल कर सकते हैं? चलो बस चीज़ें रिलीज़ करना शुरू करते हैं।" मुझे लग रहा था कि हम बहुत अच्छा खेल रहे हैं और कम से कम एक बार कोशिश करना तो बनता ही है।
Being like stranded without a label in the middle of tour was very strange. On the other hand it made us move instantly. I mean, I didn't wallow. I was like, "Alright, who can we email? Let's just start putting stuff out." I felt like we were playing really well and it was at least worth a shot.
Being like stranded without a label in the middle of tour was very strange. On the other hand it made us move instantly. I mean, I didn't wallow. I was like, "Alright, who can we email? Let's just start putting stuff out." I felt like we were playing really well and it was at least worth a shot.
एक ऐसा बैंड होने का सबसे अच्छा फायदा जिसे कोई नहीं जानता, यह है कि आप जो चाहें कर सकते हैं, समझे ना? बिना किसी डाँट-फटकार के। री-रिकॉर्ड करने के बारे में भी हम कुछ ऐसा ही महसूस करते थे। मैंने सोचा, "चलो, पहली बार में कुछ लोगों ने इस रिकॉर्ड पर ध्यान दिया था, लेकिन अगर हम इसे दोबारा करेंगे तो बहुत ज़्यादा लोग विरोध नहीं करेंगे।"
The nice thing about being a band that nobody knows about is that you can do whatever you want, you know? Without catching hell for it. That's sort of how we felt about the re-recording, too. I thought, "Well, you know a few people noticed this record the first time around but not so many will really protest if we do it again."
The nice thing about being a band that nobody knows about is that you can do whatever you want, you know? Without catching hell for it. That's sort of how we felt about the re-recording, too. I thought, "Well, you know a few people noticed this record the first time around but not so many will really protest if we do it again."
शियरवाटर (Shearwater) को बैंड के नाम के रूप में रखने की एकमात्र समस्या यह है कि लोग सोचते हैं कि यह पुशमंकी (Pushmonkey) की तरह कोई मिला-जुला शब्द है। इसका कोई वास्तविक... आप जानते ही हैं, जैसे क्लियरवाटर (Clearwater) या स्टिलवाटर (Stillwater), लोगों को एहसास ही नहीं होता कि यह वास्तव में कोई चीज़ है। यह इतना सुंदर शब्द लगा कि मुझे बहुत आश्चर्य हुआ कि किसी ने अपने बैंड का नाम यह क्यों नहीं रखा।
The only problem with Shearwater as a name for a band is that people sort of think that it's this amalgamated word like Pushmonkey or something. Doesn't have an actual...you know, like Clearwater or Stillwater, they don't realize that it actually is a thing. It seemed like such a beautiful word, I was so suprised that no body had named their band that.
The only problem with Shearwater as a name for a band is that people sort of think that it's this amalgamated word like Pushmonkey or something. Doesn't have an actual...you know, like Clearwater or Stillwater, they don't realize that it actually is a thing. It seemed like such a beautiful word, I was so suprised that no body had named their band that.
बात यह है कि ईमानदारी से कहें तो हमारे पास कोई श्रोता नहीं रहे हैं। और अब हमारे पास एक दर्शक वर्ग पाने का मौका है। जो कि बहुत बढ़िया है क्योंकि मुझे लगता है कि एक बैंड के रूप में हम अब ऐसे मुकाम पर पहुँच चुके हैं जहाँ मुझे लगता है कि हमें देखने जाना वाकई दिलचस्प हो सकता है।
The thing is that honestly we haven't had an audience. And we have a chance to have an audience now. Which is great because I think we've sort of evolved as a band to the point where I think we might actually be interesting to go see.
The thing is that honestly we haven't had an audience. And we have a chance to have an audience now. Which is great because I think we've sort of evolved as a band to the point where I think we might actually be interesting to go see.
मुझे लगता है कि पिछले एक साल में हमारे अंदर एक बदलाव आया है। मुझे नहीं पता क्या हुआ, लेकिन हम किसी तरह से ऐसे घुल-मिल गए हैं जैसे पहले कभी नहीं हुए थे। लाइव शो मेरे लिए अब कहीं अधिक शक्तिशाली और दिलचस्प हो गया है। मुझे सचमुच ऐसा महसूस हो रहा है कि हम इसकी बारीकियों को संभालना और इसे दिलचस्प बनाए रखना सीख रहे हैं। ऐसा लगता है कि हम एक-दूसरे के साथ अधिक सहज और तालमेल बिठाते जा रहे हैं।
I feel like we've kind of gone through a transformation in the past year. I don't know what happened but we've somehow gelled in a way that we never have before. The live show has become much more powerful and interesting to me. I really feel like we're learning to negotiate the dynamics of it and keep it interesting. It feels like we're becoming much more comfortable and in tune with one another.
I feel like we've kind of gone through a transformation in the past year. I don't know what happened but we've somehow gelled in a way that we never have before. The live show has become much more powerful and interesting to me. I really feel like we're learning to negotiate the dynamics of it and keep it interesting. It feels like we're becoming much more comfortable and in tune with one another.
आपको वह भाईचारा महसूस होता है जब आप सभी वैन में घूम रहे होते हैं, संगीत की दुनिया में रमे होते हैं। मंच पर बिताए गए उन 40 मिनटों को छोड़कर बाकी सब के लिए यह लगभग एक जैसा ही है। इसके अलावा, मुझे सच में ऐसा लगता है कि हम अपने ही रास्ते पर निकल पड़े हैं। यह काफी रोमांचक है।
You feel the camaraderie that you're all driving around in vans, you know, engaged in musical enterprise. It's pretty much the same for everybody except for the 40 minutes that you're on the stage. Other than that, I do feel like we're off on our own path. It's sort of exciting.
You feel the camaraderie that you're all driving around in vans, you know, engaged in musical enterprise. It's pretty much the same for everybody except for the 40 minutes that you're on the stage. Other than that, I do feel like we're off on our own path. It's sort of exciting.
मैं वास्तव में अपनी तरफ से पूरी कोशिश करना चाहता हूँ कि किसी रिकॉर्ड के साथ लोगों के पहले अनुभव की रक्षा कर सकूँ। क्योंकि मैं चाहता हूँ कि आपको पूरी चीज़ एक जुड़ी हुई इकाई के रूप में मिले, ऐसा नहीं है कि मैं पीछे संगीत बजाकर कहानियाँ सुना रहा हूँ।
I really want to try to protect as much as I can, to safeguard peoples' first experience with a record. Because I want you to get the whole thing as one integrated piece, because it's not like I'm narrating stories with music behind them.
I really want to try to protect as much as I can, to safeguard peoples' first experience with a record. Because I want you to get the whole thing as one integrated piece, because it's not like I'm narrating stories with music behind them.
अब मुझे रिकॉर्डिंग स्टूडियो में पहली बार कदम रखने पर वैसा रोमांच महसूस नहीं होता। अब यह सिर्फ एक औजार या साधन की तरह लगता है।
I don't feel [the] excitement you have when you first walk into a recording studio. It now feels like a tool.
I don't feel [the] excitement you have when you first walk into a recording studio. It now feels like a tool.
अब मुझे इस बात पर ज़्यादा रोमांच होता है कि "पियानो कितना अच्छा है?" या "कमरे की आवाज़ कैसी है?" अब मुझे उपकरण इतने ज़्यादा नहीं दिखते।
I get more excited about like, "How nice is the piano?" or "How does the room sound?" I don't really see the gear so much anymore.
I get more excited about like, "How nice is the piano?" or "How does the room sound?" I don't really see the gear so much anymore.
जब आप कोई रिकॉर्ड बनाते हैं, तो शायद आप ठीक उसी निशाने पर नहीं पहुँचेंगे जो आपने सोचा था। आपको एक निश्चित बिंदु पर सब कुछ छोड़ देना होता है और बस उस पर भरोसा करना पड़ता है।
When you make a record, you probably are not going to hit exactly what you were aiming for. You also have to let go at a certain point, and just trust it.
When you make a record, you probably are not going to hit exactly what you were aiming for. You also have to let go at a certain point, and just trust it.
मुझे कुछ समय के लिए वैज्ञानिकों के साथ काम करना और फिर कुछ समय के लिए संगीतकारों के साथ काम करना पसंद है। दोनों में ऐसी खूबियाँ होती हैं जो एक-दूसरे को संतुलित करती हैं।
I just like dealing with scientists for awhile and then going over and dealing with musicians for awhile. They both have qualities that kind of counterbalance each other.
I just like dealing with scientists for awhile and then going over and dealing with musicians for awhile. They both have qualities that kind of counterbalance each other.
मैं खुद को किसी भी तरह से बहुत धार्मिक व्यक्ति नहीं मानता।
I don't consider myself a very religious person in any.
I don't consider myself a very religious person in any.
निश्चित रूप से मुझे लगता है कि बचपन में चर्च की कुछ ऐसी बातें थीं जिन्होंने मुझे बहुत प्रभावित किया था। वहाँ की खुशबू, आवाज़ें और उसका भव्य आयोजन आज भी मेरे मन में बसा हुआ है। मुझे उसका सौंदर्यबोध बहुत पसंद है। मुझे लगता है कि मेरी धुन की समझ का एक बड़ा हिस्सा उन्हीं भजनों को गाने और पुनर्जागरण (रेनेसां) के संगीत आदि को सीखने से आया है।
I certainly think there are things that impressed me as a child about the church. The smells and the sounds and the pagaentry of it remained with me. The aesthetic I really love. I think a lot of my sense of melody comes from singing those hymns and doing the renaissance music and stuff.
I certainly think there are things that impressed me as a child about the church. The smells and the sounds and the pagaentry of it remained with me. The aesthetic I really love. I think a lot of my sense of melody comes from singing those hymns and doing the renaissance music and stuff.
एक ऐसा बैंड होने का सबसे अच्छा फायदा जिसे कोई नहीं जानता, यह है कि आप जो चाहें कर सकते हैं।
The nice thing about being a band that nobody knows about is that you can do whatever you want.
The nice thing about being a band that nobody knows about is that you can do whatever you want.
मुझे कुछ चीज़ों को बहुत साफ रखना पसंद है जबकि अन्य चीज़ें धुंधली हों... ताकि वे धीरे-धीरे फोकस में आएं और फिर उससे बाहर जाएं।
I like having some things very clear while other things are obscured... so that it kind of keeps coming into and out of focus.
I like having some things very clear while other things are obscured... so that it kind of keeps coming into and out of focus.
ऐसा नहीं है कि मैं पीछे संगीत बजाकर कहानियाँ सुना रहा हूँ। यह सब एक ही तरह की चीज़ है। आपको उम्मीद होती है कि आप एक खास भावनात्मक प्रतिक्रिया जगा सकें, लेकिन ऐसे तरीकों से जो बहुत सीधे या स्पष्ट न हों।
It's not like I'm narrating stories with music behind them. It's all kind of one thing. You hope you can provoke a specific emotional reaction, but in ways that aren't quite plain.
It's not like I'm narrating stories with music behind them. It's all kind of one thing. You hope you can provoke a specific emotional reaction, but in ways that aren't quite plain.
जब मैं गैलापागोस में इस रिकॉर्ड के लिए कुछ गाने लिख रहा था, तो वहाँ होने की अनुभूति को जगाना मेरी सबसे बड़ी इच्छा थी। मुझे याद है कि जब मैं लावा के मैदानों में घूम रहा था, तो गानों के सभी हिस्से मेरे दिमाग में गूँज रहे थे।
When I was writing some of songs for the record in Galapagos it was the feeling of being there I wanted to evoke more than anything. I remember hearing all the parts of the songs in my mind when I was walking around over the lava fields.
When I was writing some of songs for the record in Galapagos it was the feeling of being there I wanted to evoke more than anything. I remember hearing all the parts of the songs in my mind when I was walking around over the lava fields.