कांग्रेस (संसद) को दूर से ही देखना सबसे अच्छा रहता है— जितनी दूर से देखा जाए उतना ही अच्छा— क्योंकि पास से देखने पर यह वाकई बदसूरत नजर आती है। मैंने कांग्रेस के अधिकांश लोगों को असभ्य, अपनी बुनियादी संवैधानिक जिम्मेदारियों (जैसे समय पर बजट पारित करना) को पूरा करने में अक्षम, हद से ज्यादा दखल देने वाला, संकुचित सोच वाला, पाखंडी, अहंकारी, बात-बात पर बुरा मान जाने वाला और देश से पहले अपने स्वार्थ (और दोबारा चुनाव जीतने) को रखने वाला पाया है।
Congress is best viewed from a distance—the farther the better—because up close, it is truly ugly. I saw most of Congress as uncivil, incompetent at fulfilling their basic constitutional responsibilities (such as timely appropriations), micromanagerial, parochial, hypocritical, egotistical, thin-skinned and prone to put self (and re-election) before country.
Congress is best viewed from a distance—the farther the better—because up close, it is truly ugly. I saw most of Congress as uncivil, incompetent at fulfilling their basic constitutional responsibilities (such as timely appropriations), micromanagerial, parochial, hypocritical, egotistical, thin-skinned and prone to put self (and re-election) before country.
जो मैं जानता हूँ, वह मुझे चिंता में डालता है। जो मैं नहीं जानता, वह मुझे और भी ज्यादा चिंता में डालता है। और जो बातें लोग मुझसे छुपा रहे हैं, वे मुझे सबसे ज्यादा परेशान करती हैं।
What I know concerns me. What I don't know concerns me even more. What people aren't telling me worries me the most.
What I know concerns me. What I don't know concerns me even more. What people aren't telling me worries me the most.
मेरी राय में, भविष्य में यदि कोई भी रक्षा मंत्री राष्ट्रपति को यह सलाह देता है कि अमेरिकी थल सेना को दोबारा एशिया, मध्य पूर्व या अफ्रीका में भेजा जाए, तो जैसा कि जनरल मैकआर्थर ने बड़े सधे शब्दों में कहा था, "उसका दिमाग़ का डॉक्टर से इलाज करवाना चाहिए।"
In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General MacArthur so delicately put it.
In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General MacArthur so delicately put it.
अक्सर, वफादारी का मतलब लोगों को वे बातें बताना होता है जो वे सुनना नहीं चाहते। यह किसी की चापलूसी करना नहीं है, और न ही रोज यह कहना है कि वे कितने महान हैं। वफादारी का मतलब है उन्हें यह याद दिलाने का साहस रखना कि वे कब सही नहीं हैं।
Often, loyalty means telling people things they don't want to hear. It's not being sycophantic, it's not telling them how wonderful they are every day. It's being willing to tell them the days they're not wonderful.
Often, loyalty means telling people things they don't want to hear. It's not being sycophantic, it's not telling them how wonderful they are every day. It's being willing to tell them the days they're not wonderful.
शीत युद्ध के दौरान और उसके बाद भी, संयुक्त राष्ट्र अमेरिका के प्रति मित्रवत भावना पैदा करने में जितनी सफलता हमारे कॉलेजों और विश्वविद्यालयों में विदेशी छात्रों को शिक्षित करने से मिली है, उतनी किसी अन्य नीति से नहीं मिली।
No policy has proved more successful in making friends for the United States, during the cold war and since, than educating students from abroad at our colleges and universities.
No policy has proved more successful in making friends for the United States, during the cold war and since, than educating students from abroad at our colleges and universities.
मुझे लगता है कि वरिष्ठ सरकारी पदों के संदर्भ में, जब राष्ट्रपति-विद्युत बराक ओबामा से हमारी पहली मुलाकात हुई थी, तो मैंने उन्हें एक बात बताई थी। मैंने उनसे कहा था, "आप मुझे नहीं जानते। क्या आप मुझ पर भरोसा कर सकते हैं? आपको क्यों लगता है कि आप मुझ पर भरोसा कर सकते हैं?" और भी बहुत कुछ। लेकिन अंत में, मैंने कहा, "आप मुझ पर भरोसा कर सकते हैं कि मैं आपके प्रति वफादार रहूंगा। मैं कोई बात लीक नहीं करूंगा। हमारे बीच के मतभेदों को मैं निजी रखूंगा। और अगर मैं वफादार नहीं रह पाया, तो मैं पद छोड़ दूंगा।" वफादारी का मतलब है वही करना जो आप उस व्यक्ति के साथ-साथ देश के भी सबसे अच्छे हित में समझते हैं।
I think in the context of senior government positions, I think an anecdote of what I told President-Elect Barack Obama when we had our first meeting. And I said, "You don't know me. Can you trust me? Why do you think you can trust me?" and so on. But at the end, I said, "You can count on me to be loyal to you. I will not leak. I will keep my disagreements with you private. And if I cannot be loyal, I'll leave." Loyalty means doing what you think is in the best interest of that person as well as the country.
I think in the context of senior government positions, I think an anecdote of what I told President-Elect Barack Obama when we had our first meeting. And I said, "You don't know me. Can you trust me? Why do you think you can trust me?" and so on. But at the end, I said, "You can count on me to be loyal to you. I will not leak. I will keep my disagreements with you private. And if I cannot be loyal, I'll leave." Loyalty means doing what you think is in the best interest of that person as well as the country.
मेरी एक पसंदीदा छोटी सी कहावत है, 'आलोचना से बचना है तो कुछ मत कहो, कुछ मत करो, कुछ मत बनो।'
One of my favorite little sayings is, 'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.
One of my favorite little sayings is, 'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.
एक रोमांचक और मस्त वीकेंड का मतलब है बरामदे में बैठना, सिगार पीना और किताब पढ़ना।
A wild and crazy weekend involves sitting on the front porch, smoking a cigar, reading a book.
A wild and crazy weekend involves sitting on the front porch, smoking a cigar, reading a book.
कांग्रेस (संसद) को दूर से ही देखना सबसे अच्छा रहता है— जितनी दूर से देखा जाए उतना ही अच्छा— क्योंकि पास से देखने पर यह वाकई बदसूरत नजर आती है।
Congress is best viewed from a distance - the farther the better - because up close, it is truly ugly.
Congress is best viewed from a distance - the farther the better - because up close, it is truly ugly.
ज्यादातर सरकारें एक-दूसरे से झूठ बोलती हैं। इसी तरह से काम चलते हैं।
Most governments lie to each other. That's the way business gets done.
Most governments lie to each other. That's the way business gets done.
यह स्पष्ट हो गया है कि कूटवर्ष और विकास से जुड़े अमेरिका के नागरिक संस्थान लंबे समय से अपनी जरूरत और देश की सेना पर खर्च होने वाले बजट के मुकाबले बहुत कम स्टाफ और फंड से काम चला रहे हैं; और इससे भी महत्वपूर्ण बात यह है कि दुनिया भर में हमारे देश के सामने मौजूद जिम्मेदारियों और चुनौतियों के लिहाज से यह बहुत कम है।
It has become clear that America's civilian institutions of diplomacy and development have been chronically undermanned and underfunded for far too long - relative to what we spend on the military, and more important, relative to the responsibilities and challenges our nation has around the world.
It has become clear that America's civilian institutions of diplomacy and development have been chronically undermanned and underfunded for far too long - relative to what we spend on the military, and more important, relative to the responsibilities and challenges our nation has around the world.
मैंने अपने जीवन में जिससे भी मुलाकात की, उसके साथ एक सभ्य रिश्ता बनाए रखने की कोशिश की है— और भले ही किसी से मेरा कितना भी तीव्र मतभेद क्यों न रहा हो, मैंने हमेशा उनका सम्मान करने का प्रयास किया है।
I have tried to maintain civil relationships with everyone I meet - and, even if I violently disagree with them, try to be respectful.
I have tried to maintain civil relationships with everyone I meet - and, even if I violently disagree with them, try to be respectful.
खैर, मैंने जिन संस्थानों का भी नेतृत्व किया है, वहां कुछ लोगों को असहज जरूर किया है। लेकिन मुझे लगता है कि यह नेतृत्व का ही एक हिस्सा है।
Well, I've ruffled a few feathers at all the institutions I've led. But I think that's part of leadership.
Well, I've ruffled a few feathers at all the institutions I've led. But I think that's part of leadership.
हमें उस संस्कृति और मूल्यों को कभी नहीं भूलना चाहिए जिसने मरीन कॉर्प्स को—जहां 'हर मरीन एक राइफलमैन होता है'— अमेरिका के सबसे सम्मानित संस्थानों में से एक और दुनिया के सबसे खौफनाक और सम्मानित लड़ाकू बलों में से एक बनाया है।
We should never lose sight of the ethos that has made the Marine Corps - where 'every Marine is a rifleman' - one of America's cherished institutions and one of the world's most feared and respected fighting forces
We should never lose sight of the ethos that has made the Marine Corps - where 'every Marine is a rifleman' - one of America's cherished institutions and one of the world's most feared and respected fighting forces
मैं ड्रोन का बहुत बड़ा समर्थक हूँ।
I'm a big advocate of drones.
I'm a big advocate of drones.
भविष्य के अमेरिकी राजनीतिक नेता—जिनके लिए शीत युद्ध वह अनुभव नहीं था जिसने मेरे व्यक्तित्व को गढ़ा—शायद नाटो (NATO) में अमेरिका के निवेश से मिलने वाले मुनाफे को उसकी लागत के लायक न समझें।
Future U.S. political leaders – those for whom the Cold War was not the formative experience that it was for me – may not consider the return on America’s investment in NATO worth the cost.
Future U.S. political leaders – those for whom the Cold War was not the formative experience that it was for me – may not consider the return on America’s investment in NATO worth the cost.
सैनिक भेजने की तुलना में विकास कार्यों पर खर्च करना काफी सस्ता पड़ता है।
Development is a lot cheaper than sending soldiers.
Development is a lot cheaper than sending soldiers.
सरकार में रहते हुए, मैं इस बात का पक्का समर्थक हूँ कि सरकारी एजेंसियों और विभागों में सुधार की जरूरत है। वे बहुत सुस्त और लापरवाह हो गए हैं, और आम जनता के अनुकूल नहीं हैं। वे अक्षम हैं। उन पर खर्च बहुत ज्यादा होता है।
In government, I'm a strong believer in the need for reform of government agencies and departments. They - they have gotten fat and sloppy, and they're not user friendly. They are inefficient. They cost too much.
In government, I'm a strong believer in the need for reform of government agencies and departments. They - they have gotten fat and sloppy, and they're not user friendly. They are inefficient. They cost too much.
मैं हमेशा जरूरत के आधार पर लड़े जाने वाले युद्धों का समर्थक रहूंगा। हालांकि, पसंद के आधार पर छेड़े जाने वाले युद्धों को लेकर मैं बहुत अधिक सतर्क रहता हूँ।
I will always be an advocate in terms of wars of necessity. I am just much more cautious on wars of choice.
I will always be an advocate in terms of wars of necessity. I am just much more cautious on wars of choice.
मुझे लगता है कि विदेश नीति के मोर्चे पर एक बड़े बदलाव की जरूरत है। हमने पिछले तीन प्रशासनों में उत्तर कोरिया के प्रति एक जैसी नीति अपनाई है, जिससे हमें वास्तव में कोई हासिल नहीं हुआ।
I think, on the foreign policy side, that there is a need for disruption. We've had three administrations follow a pretty consistent policy toward North Korea, and it really hasn't gotten us anywhere.
I think, on the foreign policy side, that there is a need for disruption. We've had three administrations follow a pretty consistent policy toward North Korea, and it really hasn't gotten us anywhere.
खुफिया विभाग में सबसे कठिन लड़ाइयों में से एक पारंपरिक और पुरानी सोच का मुकाबला करना है।
One of the toughest battles in intelligence is combating conventional wisdom.
One of the toughest battles in intelligence is combating conventional wisdom.
मैंने अपने करियर में अक्सर देखा है कि जब लोग एजेंसियों और संगठनों का नेतृत्व संभालने आते हैं, तो वे ऊपर से फैसले थोपने की कोशिश करते हैं। यह कभी काम नहीं करता। आपके पास कभी इतना समय होता ही नहीं है।
I've seen, all too often in my career, people coming in to lead agencies and organizations and trying to impose change from the top down. Never works. You never have enough time.
I've seen, all too often in my career, people coming in to lead agencies and organizations and trying to impose change from the top down. Never works. You never have enough time.
जब से मैं पहली बार वाशिंगटन आया था, तब से कांग्रेस (संसद) में एक बड़ा बदलाव यह आया है कि अब ये सभी लोग हर वीकेंड पर अपने घर चले जाते हैं। पहले वे एक साथ गोल्फ खेलते थे; उनके परिवार एक-दूसरे को जानते थे, वीकेंड पर एक-दूसरे के घर डिनर पर जाते थे— और ये वे लोग होते थे जो राजनीतिक रूप से एक-दूसरे के विरोधी हुआ करते थे।
One of the big changes in the Congress since I first came to Washington is that all of these folks go home every weekend. They used to play golf together; their families got to know each other, go to dinner at each other's homes at weekends - and these would be people who were political adversaries.
One of the big changes in the Congress since I first came to Washington is that all of these folks go home every weekend. They used to play golf together; their families got to know each other, go to dinner at each other's homes at weekends - and these would be people who were political adversaries.
सिर्फ सैन्य ताकत जीत हासिल करने के लिए काफी नहीं होती; लंबी अवधि की सफलता के लिए सुरक्षा के साथ-साथ आर्थिक विकास, संस्थाओं का निर्माण, कानून का राज, आपसी मेल-मिलाप को बढ़ावा देना, अच्छी शासन व्यवस्था, लोगों को बुनियादी सेवाएं देना, स्थानीय सेना और पुलिस को प्रशिक्षित व लैस करना और रणनीतिक संवाद जैसे तमाम तत्व बेहद जरूरी हैं।
Power... Military success is not sufficient to win: economic development, institution-building and the rule of law, promoting internal reconciliation, good governance, providing basic services to the people, training and equipping indigenous military and police forces, strategic communications, and more of these, along with security, are essential ingredients for long-term success.
Power... Military success is not sufficient to win: economic development, institution-building and the rule of law, promoting internal reconciliation, good governance, providing basic services to the people, training and equipping indigenous military and police forces, strategic communications, and more of these, along with security, are essential ingredients for long-term success.
रणनीति में सफलता की कोई भी उम्मीद तभी हो सकती है जब जमीन पर सैनिक मौजूद हों।
There will be boots on the ground if there's to be any hope of success in the strategy.
There will be boots on the ground if there's to be any hope of success in the strategy.
मुझे लगता है कि डोनाल्ड ट्रंप ने चीन का ध्यान उस हद तक खींचा है जो उनके पूर्ववर्ती राष्ट्रपति नहीं कर पाए, और इससे यह साबित होता है कि अमेरिका के लिए यह एक बेहद गंभीर मामला है।
I think Donald Trump has gotten China's attention to a degree that his predecessors have not that this is a very serious matter for the United States.
I think Donald Trump has gotten China's attention to a degree that his predecessors have not that this is a very serious matter for the United States.
और इस तरह अमेरिकी इतिहास की सबसे बड़ी जीत... एक अजीब सी बेनूर जीत बनकर रह गई। हमने शीत युद्ध जीत लिया था, लेकिन जश्न में कोई परेड नहीं निकाली गई।
And so the greatest of American triumphs... became a peculiarly joyless victory. We had won the Cold War, but there would be no parades.
And so the greatest of American triumphs... became a peculiarly joyless victory. We had won the Cold War, but there would be no parades.
कुछ लोगों ने साफ तौर पर कहा है कि मेरा यह मानना थोड़ी नासमझी भरा है कि ईरान परमाणु हथियार न होने को अपनी सुरक्षा के लिए ज्यादा फायदेमंद मानेगा, बजाय इसके कि वे उसके पास हों।
Some people have said, in so many words, that I'm kind of wooly-headed in believing that the Iranians would see not having nuclear weapons as more in their security interest than not.
Some people have said, in so many words, that I'm kind of wooly-headed in believing that the Iranians would see not having nuclear weapons as more in their security interest than not.
मुझे लगता है कि राष्ट्रपति डोनाल्ड ट्रम्प के सत्ता में आने के बाद से जो नीतियां अपनाई गई हैं, उनमें रूस के प्रति कोई नरमी नहीं बरती गई है। और मुझे लगता है कि जिस बात ने लोगों को सबसे ज्यादा हैरान किया है, वह यह है कि चुनाव के बाद वास्तव में अमेरिका और रूस के संबंध और खराब हुए हैं।
I think in the policies that have been followed since the president Donald Trump came into office, there really hasn't been any slack cut for the Russians. And I think one of the things that has surprised people has been that the relationship between the United States and Russia has in fact deteriorated since the election.
I think in the policies that have been followed since the president Donald Trump came into office, there really hasn't been any slack cut for the Russians. And I think one of the things that has surprised people has been that the relationship between the United States and Russia has in fact deteriorated since the election.
दुनिया में ऐसी कोई अंतरराष्ट्रीय समस्या नहीं है जिसे अमेरिका की भागीदारी और नेतृत्व के बिना सुलझाया जा सके, और इस बात को दुनिया का हर इंसान जानता है, यह एक अकादमिक सच्चाई है। इसलिए कभी-कभी मुझे लगता है कि हमें थोड़ा और विनम्रता से पेश आना चाहिए।
There is no international problem that can be addressed or solved without the engagement and leadership of the United States and everybody in the world knows that, its just fact of life. So sometimes I think we could conduct ourselves with a little more humility.
There is no international problem that can be addressed or solved without the engagement and leadership of the United States and everybody in the world knows that, its just fact of life. So sometimes I think we could conduct ourselves with a little more humility.
चाहे कोई भी राष्ट्रपति हो, उसकी भलाई कभी भी 'ग्रुपथिंक' (सबकी एक जैसी और बिना सोचे-समझी हाँ में हाँ मिलाने की सोच) से या इस बात से नहीं होती कि हर कोई वही राग अलापने लगे जो उन्हें लगता है कि राष्ट्रपति को पसंद है।
No president is well-served by groupthink or by everybody singing from the same sheet of music they think he's on.
No president is well-served by groupthink or by everybody singing from the same sheet of music they think he's on.
अमेरिका के कूटनीति और विकास से जुड़े नागरिक संस्थान लंबे समय से गंभीर रूप से कम कर्मचारियों और कम फंड से जूझ रहे हैं।
America's civilian institutions of diplomacy and development have been chronically undermanned and underfunded for far too long.
America's civilian institutions of diplomacy and development have been chronically undermanned and underfunded for far too long.
यदि संभव हो, तो ऐसी स्थिति होनी चाहिए कि तुरंत घोषणा की जा सके कि अंतरिम तौर पर पद कौन संभालेगा। और अगर हो सके तो यह भी घोषणा करें कि आप उस व्यक्ति की जगह किसे नामांकित करने जा रहे हैं। यदि वह व्यक्ति बेदाग ईमानदारी और प्रतिष्ठा वाला हो, तो यह उस तीखी आलोचना की हवा निकाल देता है जिसमें यह कहा जाता है कि यह कोई सत्ता हथियाने का खेल है। किसी वरिष्ठ अधिकारी को बदलने का यह एक पेशेवर तरीका है, जिस पर हमेशा से काफी ध्यान आकर्षित होता है।
If possible, to be in a position to announce who is going to step in as the interim immediately. And if possible, to announce who you're going to nominate to replace that person. For that to be somebody of impeccable integrity and reputation disarms a lot of the worst criticism that it's some kind of a power play. It's a professional approach to replacing a senior official, which is always going to get a lot of attention.
If possible, to be in a position to announce who is going to step in as the interim immediately. And if possible, to announce who you're going to nominate to replace that person. For that to be somebody of impeccable integrity and reputation disarms a lot of the worst criticism that it's some kind of a power play. It's a professional approach to replacing a senior official, which is always going to get a lot of attention.
देखिए, अगर मैं तालिबान होता, तो मैं कहता कि, 'अल-काएदा ने मेरे लिए ऐसा क्या किया सिवाय इसके कि उसने मुझे अफगानिस्तान से बाहर करवा दिया?'
You know, if I were an - if I were a Taliban, I'd say, 'What did al-Qaida ever do for me except get me kicked out of Afghanistan?'
You know, if I were an - if I were a Taliban, I'd say, 'What did al-Qaida ever do for me except get me kicked out of Afghanistan?'
मैं खुद को एक रिपब्लिकन मानता हूं।
I consider myself a Republican.
I consider myself a Republican.
मुझे लगता है कि जब मुद्दों की बात आती है, तो मैं उन्हें स्क्रिप्ट पर टिके रहने की सलाह दूंगा। लेकिन, मेरा मतलब है, डोनाल्ड ट्रम्प को कुछ बहुत ही कठिन बातचीत करनी होंगी और वे अपनी सभी यात्राओं के दौरान कुछ बहुत ही जटिल और कड़े मुद्दों पर बात करेंगे। मुझे लगता है कि जब भी कोई राष्ट्रपति ऐसा काम करता है जिससे उसकी मानवीय छवि झलके, तो वह बहुत अच्छा होता है।
I think when it comes to the issues, I'd advise him to stick to the script. But, I mean, Donald Trump is going to have some very tough conversations and he's going to be talking about some very tough and complicated issues in all of the places that he visits.I think anytime a president does things that are humanizing, I think it's - it's good.
I think when it comes to the issues, I'd advise him to stick to the script. But, I mean, Donald Trump is going to have some very tough conversations and he's going to be talking about some very tough and complicated issues in all of the places that he visits.I think anytime a president does things that are humanizing, I think it's - it's good.
विदेश नीति के मोर्चे पर, बहुत ज्यादा आवेगी (स्पॉन्टेनियस) और व्यवधान पैदा करने वाला होने का एक जोखिम होता है, जिससे अंततः फायदे से ज्यादा नुकसान हो जाता है। और इस संतुलन को समझ पाना ही वह वजह है जिसके चलते आपके आसपास मजबूत लोगों का होना मायने रखता है।
On the foreign policy side, there's the risk of being too spontaneous and too disruptive where you end up doing more harm than damage. And figuring out that balance is where having strong people around you matters.
On the foreign policy side, there's the risk of being too spontaneous and too disruptive where you end up doing more harm than damage. And figuring out that balance is where having strong people around you matters.
यह स्पष्ट है कि चीन और उत्तर कोरिया के बीच रिश्ते शायद ही कभी इतने खराब रहे हों। किम जोंग-उन ने अपने शासनकाल में कभी बीजिंग का दौरा नहीं किया है। चीनी मीडिया उत्तर कोरिया और किम जोंग-उन के बारे में बेहद नकारात्मक बातें कह रहा है। तो वे इसमें हस्तक्षेप कर रहे हैं और दबाव बढ़ा रहे हैं। यह काफी होगा या नहीं, यह तो आने वाला वक्त ही बताएगा।
It's clear the relationship between China and North Korea has hardly ever been worse. Kim Jong-un has never been to Beijing in his leadership. The Chinese press are saying some amazingly negative things about the north, and about Kim Jong-un. So - so they are weighing in, and they are bringing greater pressure. Whether it will be enough I think remains to be seen.
It's clear the relationship between China and North Korea has hardly ever been worse. Kim Jong-un has never been to Beijing in his leadership. The Chinese press are saying some amazingly negative things about the north, and about Kim Jong-un. So - so they are weighing in, and they are bringing greater pressure. Whether it will be enough I think remains to be seen.
मुझे लगता है कि व्लादिमीर पुतिन रूस के कदमों के लिए निश्चित रूप से बहुत सुर्खियां बटोर रहे हैं। और मुझे नहीं लगता कि यह उनके लिए नाखुश करने वाली बात होगी। यह एक ऐसा नेता है जिसने देखा कि 2012 के उसके राष्ट्रपति चुनाव में अमेरिका मूल रूप से उसके खिलाफ खड़ा हो गया था। उसने देखा कि पूर्वी यूरोप, जॉर्जिया, यूक्रेन और अन्य जगहों पर जितनी भी 'कलर रिवोल्यूशन' (रंग क्रांतियां) हुईं, उन सबके पीछे अमेरिका का हाथ था। इसलिए उनका नज़रिया यह है कि पश्चिम बरसों से उनकी राजनीति में दखल देता आया है।
I think that Vladimir Putin is certainly getting a lot of publicity for what the Russians are doing. And I'm not sure that's unwelcome to him. I think this is a guy who saw the U.S. basically come out against him in his reelection campaign in 2012. He saw the U.S. being behind all of the color revolutions in Eastern Europe and in Georgia and Ukraine and so on. So his view is the West has been interfering in his politics for years.
I think that Vladimir Putin is certainly getting a lot of publicity for what the Russians are doing. And I'm not sure that's unwelcome to him. I think this is a guy who saw the U.S. basically come out against him in his reelection campaign in 2012. He saw the U.S. being behind all of the color revolutions in Eastern Europe and in Georgia and Ukraine and so on. So his view is the West has been interfering in his politics for years.
मुझे नहीं लगता कि डायरेक्टर जेम्स कोमी से जुड़े पूरे मामले को ठीक से संभाला गया था। इसलिए कामकाज के ऐसे रोजमर्रा के पहलू हैं जो मुझे वाकई परेशान करने वाले लगते हैं। और मैं जानता हूं कि देश में बहुत से ऐसे लोग हैं जिन्हें घरेलू मोर्चे पर डोनाल्ड ट्रम्प के फैसलों से कई तरह की आपत्तियां हैं।
I didn't think this whole business with Director James Comey was handled well. So there are sort of day-to-day aspects of the operation that I think are really troublesome. And I know that there are a lot of people in the country who have lots of issues with decisions that Donald Trump has making on the domestic side.
I didn't think this whole business with Director James Comey was handled well. So there are sort of day-to-day aspects of the operation that I think are really troublesome. And I know that there are a lot of people in the country who have lots of issues with decisions that Donald Trump has making on the domestic side.
मुझे लगता है कि यह बात कुछ ज्यादा ही खींचकर कही गई है। देखिए, एक बात तो यह है कि अमेरिकी सरकार के लिए काम करने वाला कोई व्यक्ति दूसरे पक्ष को खुफिया राज बेच दे, और दूसरी बात यह है कि उसकी निजी जिंदगी में कुछ ऐसा हो जिसे वह छिपा रहा हो और जिसके आधार पर उसे ब्लैकमेल किया जा सके। अपने ही दफ्तर के किसी सहकर्मी से झूठ बोलने के सबूत होना—शायद यह पुराने खुफिया अधिकारी वाली बात हो—यह एक समस्या है।
I think it's kind of a stretch. You know, it's one thing if somebody working for the U.S. government has sold secrets to the other side, it's another if they have something in their personal life that they're hiding for which they could be blackmailed. Having evidence that they didn't tell the truth to somebody in the same building where they work, maybe it's just the old intel guy, is - it's a problem.
I think it's kind of a stretch. You know, it's one thing if somebody working for the U.S. government has sold secrets to the other side, it's another if they have something in their personal life that they're hiding for which they could be blackmailed. Having evidence that they didn't tell the truth to somebody in the same building where they work, maybe it's just the old intel guy, is - it's a problem.
सोवियत विदेश मंत्री अक्सर नियमित रूप से राष्ट्रपति से मिलने आते थे। अफगानिस्तान पर आक्रमण के बाद जिमी कार्टर ने इसे बंद कर दिया था। मुझे लगता है कि रोनाल्ड रीगन ने 1984 में इसे फिर से शुरू किया। इसलिए इस तरह की बैठक का होना कोई बहुत बड़ी बात नहीं है।
Soviet foreign ministers would come in to see the president all the time, routinely. Jimmy Carter stopped that after the invasion of Afghanistan. Ronald Reagan resumed it in 1984, I think. And so the fact of a meeting like that I think is not that big a deal.
Soviet foreign ministers would come in to see the president all the time, routinely. Jimmy Carter stopped that after the invasion of Afghanistan. Ronald Reagan resumed it in 1984, I think. And so the fact of a meeting like that I think is not that big a deal.
मैं जनरल माइकल फ्लिन को ज्यादा अच्छे से नहीं जानता, लेकिन मेरे लिए यह विश्वास करना मुश्किल है कि कोई भी व्यक्ति रूसियों द्वारा इसलिए ब्लैकमेल होने देगा क्योंकि उसने अमेरिका के उपराष्ट्रपति को पूरी बात नहीं बताई थी या सच नहीं बताया था, जबकि वे दोनों हॉल में सिर्फ 50 फीट की दूरी पर काम करते हैं।
I don't know General Michael Flynn well, but it's hard for me to believe anybody would allow themselves to be blackmailed by the Russians because they didn't tell the full story or didn't tell the truth to the vice president of the United States who works 50 feet down the hall.
I don't know General Michael Flynn well, but it's hard for me to believe anybody would allow themselves to be blackmailed by the Russians because they didn't tell the full story or didn't tell the truth to the vice president of the United States who works 50 feet down the hall.
मैंने खुद कई वरिष्ठ लोगों को उनके पदों से हटाया है और मुझे लगता है कि जब आप किसी वरिष्ठ अधिकारी को हटाने के लिए मजबूर महसूस करें, तो सबसे जरूरी बात यह है कि शुरुआत में ही आपकी सारी तैयारियां पुख्ता होनी चाहिए। सभी को यह समझ आ जाना चाहिए कि ऐसा करने के पीछे की वजह क्या थी।
I fired a lot of senior people myself and I think the key, when you feel compelled to remove a senior official, is essentially to have all your ducks in a row at the beginning. Have everybody understand what the rationale was.
I fired a lot of senior people myself and I think the key, when you feel compelled to remove a senior official, is essentially to have all your ducks in a row at the beginning. Have everybody understand what the rationale was.
मुझे लगता है कि व्लादिमीर पुतिन ने बहुत ही रणनीतिक तरीके से पासा पलट दिया है और अपनी पूरी ताकत यह साबित करने में लगा दी है कि, जैसे हम रूसी चुनावों को अवैध बताते हैं, वैसे ही वे पूरी दुनिया को यह यकीन दिला सकें कि पश्चिमी देशों के चुनाव भी अवैध हैं। और अब सिर्फ हम ही नहीं, हम जानते हैं कि जर्मनी, फ्रांस और कई अन्य देश भी इस दायरे में हैं।
I think that Vladimir Putin has decided, in a very strategic way, to turn the tables and do everything in his power to, as we've described Russian elections as illegitimate, to try and communicate to the rest of the world that Western elections are illegitimate. And it's not just us, we know that now. It's Germany, it's France, it's a number of other countries.
I think that Vladimir Putin has decided, in a very strategic way, to turn the tables and do everything in his power to, as we've described Russian elections as illegitimate, to try and communicate to the rest of the world that Western elections are illegitimate. And it's not just us, we know that now. It's Germany, it's France, it's a number of other countries.
यह रूसियों का एक बहुत व्यापक और बमुश्किल छिपाया गया प्रयास है, जिसका मकसद पश्चिमी देशों के इन चुनावों की वैधता पर सवाल खड़े करना है। और मुझे लगता है, यह पूरी तरह से के.जी.बी. (रूसी खुफिया एजेंसी) की शैली है।
It's a very broad and not very well-disguised effort of Russians to create questions about the legitimacy of these Western elections. And, I think, this is very K.G.B.
It's a very broad and not very well-disguised effort of Russians to create questions about the legitimacy of these Western elections. And, I think, this is very K.G.B.
मुझे लगता है कि उत्तर कोरिया के मामले में व्यवधान पैदा करने वाली नीति, कड़े तेवर, सैन्य तैनाती और दक्षिण कोरिया में मिसाइल रक्षा प्रणाली भेजना—यह सब बहुत अच्छे कदम रहे हैं।
I think that - that the disruptive nature, the tough talk on North Korea, the military deployments, sending the missile defense system to South Korea, I think these are all good things to have done.
I think that - that the disruptive nature, the tough talk on North Korea, the military deployments, sending the missile defense system to South Korea, I think these are all good things to have done.
सचिव के रूप में चीन की मेरी आखिरी यात्रा (जनवरी 2011) के दौरान, मैंने राष्ट्रपति हू जितातो से बिल्कुल साफ शब्दों में कहा था, "अमेरिका के राष्ट्रपति चाहते हैं कि मैं आपको बताऊं कि अब हम उत्तर कोरिया को अमेरिका के लिए सीधा खतरा मानते हैं।" और इसका बिल्कुल भी कोई असर नहीं हुआ।
My last visit to China as secretary, January of 2011, I told President Hu Jintao, just like this, "President of the United States wanted me to tell you that we now consider North Korea a direct threat to the United States." And it had no effect whatsoever.
My last visit to China as secretary, January of 2011, I told President Hu Jintao, just like this, "President of the United States wanted me to tell you that we now consider North Korea a direct threat to the United States." And it had no effect whatsoever.
मेरी एकमात्र चिंता यह है कि हू जितातो यह आंकलन करने में गलती न कर बैठें कि प्योंगयांग पर चीन का कितना प्रभाव है। उनका प्रभाव है भी, उनके पास कंपनियां भी हैं, और उनके ऐसे आर्थिक संबंध भी हैं जो उत्तर कोरिया में जीवन को बहुत कठिन बना सकते हैं। उनकी दुविधा यह है कि, "हम उत्तर कोरिया में हालात को कितना बदतर बना सकते हैं, बिना उस स्थिति को पैदा किए जिससे हमें सबसे ज्यादा डर लगता है—यानी उत्तर कोरिया का पतन।" और अगर ऐसा हुआ, तो उन तमाम परमाणु हथियारों का क्या होगा? इसलिए वे इस स्थिति से बचने के लिए पूरी कोशिश करेंगे।
My one concern is that Hu Jintao may overestimate how much power China has in Pyongyang. They have - they do have influence, and they do have companies, and they do have economic relationships that could make life much more difficult in the north. Their balancing act is, "How much worse can we make it in the north without creating that which scares us more than anything, which is a collapse in the north." And then what happens to all those nuclear weapons. So they're going to work very hard to avoid that.
My one concern is that Hu Jintao may overestimate how much power China has in Pyongyang. They have - they do have influence, and they do have companies, and they do have economic relationships that could make life much more difficult in the north. Their balancing act is, "How much worse can we make it in the north without creating that which scares us more than anything, which is a collapse in the north." And then what happens to all those nuclear weapons. So they're going to work very hard to avoid that.
खैर, इजराइल साफ तौर पर ईरानी परमाणु कार्यक्रम को अपने वजूद के लिए एक बड़े खतरे के रूप में देखता है।
Well, Israel, obviously, thinks of the Iranian nuclear program as an existential threat to Israel.
Well, Israel, obviously, thinks of the Iranian nuclear program as an existential threat to Israel.
आर्थिक मंदी के दौर में या युद्ध के बाद, अमेरिका द्वारा बार-बार खुद को एकतरफा रूप से हथियारविहीन कर लेने के चक्र के प्रति मैं लंबे समय से बहुत संवेदनशील रहा हूँ।
I've been very sensitive for a long time to the repeated pattern, during economic hard times or after a war, of the United States' essentially unilaterally disarming.
I've been very sensitive for a long time to the repeated pattern, during economic hard times or after a war, of the United States' essentially unilaterally disarming.
अगर इसका कोई सबसे बड़ा उदाहरण है कि केवल सैन्य ताकत के बल पर अफगानिस्तान में सफल नहीं हुआ जा सकता, तो वह सोवियत संघ का अनुभव था।
If there's ever an example that military power alone cannot be successful in Afghanistan, I think it was the Soviet experience.
If there's ever an example that military power alone cannot be successful in Afghanistan, I think it was the Soviet experience.
जब मैं सीआईए में था, तब भी मैं विदेशी नेताओं से मिलने जाता था और उनसे कहता था, 'देखिए, मैं कोई राजनेता या कूटनीतिज्ञ नहीं हूँ। मैं तो बस सीआईए का एक पुराना आदमी हूँ'... मैंने कहा, 'अगर मुझे कूटनीतिज्ञ बनना होता, तो मैं वही बनता।'
Even when I was at CIA, I'd go to visit foreign leaders and I'd say, 'You know, I'm not a diplomat. I'm just an old CIA guy'... I said, 'If I wanted to be diplomatic, I'd have been a diplomat.'
Even when I was at CIA, I'd go to visit foreign leaders and I'd say, 'You know, I'm not a diplomat. I'm just an old CIA guy'... I said, 'If I wanted to be diplomatic, I'd have been a diplomat.'
रक्षा क्षेत्र का खर्च अन्य विवेकाधीन खर्चों (डिस्क्रीशनरी स्पेंडिंग) जैसा नहीं होता।
Defense is not like other discretionary spending.
Defense is not like other discretionary spending.
मुझे नहीं लगता कि मैंने जिस भी राष्ट्रपति के साथ काम किया, उनमें से किसी ने भी कभी 'कृपया' (नर्मी से) बात की हो।
I don't think any president that I worked with has ever said 'pretty please.
I don't think any president that I worked with has ever said 'pretty please.
मेरा मतलब है, जब आप परमाणु हथियारों की संख्या को बेहद कम स्तर पर ले आते हैं, और उन्हें पूरी तरह शून्य (समाप्त) करने के बारे में सोचते हैं, तो इस हकीकत से कैसे निपटेंगे कि वह तकनीक किसी भी ऐसे देश के लिए उपलब्ध है जो उसे हासिल करना चाहता है? और इसके लिए आप क्या शर्तें तय करेंगे?
I mean, when you get down to very low numbers of nuclear weapons, and you contemplate going to zero, how do you deal with the reality of that technology being available to almost any country that seeks to pursue it? And what conditions do you put in place?
I mean, when you get down to very low numbers of nuclear weapons, and you contemplate going to zero, how do you deal with the reality of that technology being available to almost any country that seeks to pursue it? And what conditions do you put in place?
खैर, मैंने जो कहा है वह यह है कि इराक युद्ध पर हमेशा इस बात का साया रहेगा कि इसकी शुरुआत कैसे हुई थी, जो कि एक गलत आधार पर थी, और असल में वहां कोई सामूहिक विनाश के हथियार (डब्लूएमडी) थे ही नहीं।
Well, what I've said is that the war in Iraq will always be clouded by how it began, which was a wrong premise, that there were in fact no weapons of nuclear - weapons of mass destruction.
Well, what I've said is that the war in Iraq will always be clouded by how it began, which was a wrong premise, that there were in fact no weapons of nuclear - weapons of mass destruction.
जब मैं नब्बे के दशक के शुरुआती दौर में सेंट्रल इंटेलिजेंस का डायरेक्टर था, तो मैंने एयर फोर्स को ड्रोन बनाने में हमारे साथ हाथ मिलाने के लिए मनाने की कोशिश की थी। लेकिन वे इसके लिए तैयार नहीं हुए, क्योंकि उनके पास पायलटों की कोई कमी नहीं थी।
When I was the director of Central Intelligence in the early '90s, I tried to get the Air Force to partner with us in building drones. And they didn't want to, because they had no pilots.
When I was the director of Central Intelligence in the early '90s, I tried to get the Air Force to partner with us in building drones. And they didn't want to, because they had no pilots.
वाशिंगटन में माहौल अब बेहद खराब और गंदा हो चुका है।
Things have gotten so nasty in Washington.
Things have gotten so nasty in Washington.
जब भी किसी संघर्ष का अंत होता है, तो जाने कैसे हम खुद को इस बात के लिए मना लेते हैं कि इंसानी फितरत और दुनिया का तौर-तरीका हमेशा के लिए बदल चुका है, और इसलिए हम अपनी सैन्य और खुफिया ताकतों को समेट कर कमज़ोर कर देते हैं। मेरी उम्मीद बस इतनी है कि जैसे-जैसे हम इराक से अपने कदम पीछे खींच रहे हैं और अफगानिस्तान में हमारी जो भी प्रतिबद्धता है, उसके बीच हम यह न भूलें कि इंसानी फितरत का मूल स्वभाव कभी नहीं बदला है।
Every time we have come to the end of a conflict, somehow we have persuaded ourselves that the nature of mankind and the nature of the world have changed on an enduring basis and so we have dismantle our military and intelligence capabilities. My hope is that as we wind down in Iraq and whatever the level of our commitment in Afghanistan, that we not forget the basic nature of humankind has not changed.
Every time we have come to the end of a conflict, somehow we have persuaded ourselves that the nature of mankind and the nature of the world have changed on an enduring basis and so we have dismantle our military and intelligence capabilities. My hope is that as we wind down in Iraq and whatever the level of our commitment in Afghanistan, that we not forget the basic nature of humankind has not changed.
बाज़ार में कारोबार के दौरान बदलाव कैसे लाया जाए, इस पर तो ढेरों किताबें मिल जाएंगी, लेकिन सार्वजनिक संस्थानों में ऐसा कैसे किया जाए... इस पर मैंने कोई किताब नहीं देखी।
There's a lot of books out there about how you lead change in business, but I've certainly not seen any... on how you do that in public institutions.
There's a lot of books out there about how you lead change in business, but I've certainly not seen any... on how you do that in public institutions.
उन्नीसवीं सदी के उत्तरार्ध से ही संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका एक वैश्विक महाशक्ति रहा है।
The United States has been a global power since late in the 19th century.
The United States has been a global power since late in the 19th century.
काश मैं कांग्रेस के लिए समय-सीमा तय कर पाता, लेकिन हमारे संविधान की रूपरेखा ऐसी नहीं है।
I wish I could set deadlines for the Congress, but that's just not the way the Constitution is written.
I wish I could set deadlines for the Congress, but that's just not the way the Constitution is written.
मेरा मानना है कि परमाणु हथियार से लैस ईरान इस क्षेत्र में भारी अस्थिरता पैदा कर देगा। मुझे लगता है कि इससे इस इलाके में परमाणु हथियारों की होड़ शुरू हो सकती है।
I think that Iran with a nuclear weapon is extremely destabilizing. I think it could precipitate a nuclear arms race in the region.
I think that Iran with a nuclear weapon is extremely destabilizing. I think it could precipitate a nuclear arms race in the region.
मैंने प्रेस में पढ़ा है, इसलिए यह बात सच ही होगी कि विदेश विभाग के लिए बड़े बजट की पैरवी करते हुए आज तक किसी भी रक्षा मंत्री को उद्धृत नहीं किया गया।
I read in the press, and therefore it must be true, that no secretary of defense had ever been quoted as arguing for a bigger budget for State.
I read in the press, and therefore it must be true, that no secretary of defense had ever been quoted as arguing for a bigger budget for State.
मैंने हमेशा उसी इंसान को वोट दिया जिसे मैंने सबसे योग्य समझा।
I have always voted for who I believed was the best person.
I have always voted for who I believed was the best person.
रक्षा मंत्री के रूप में बुश प्रशासन से ओबामा प्रशासन में जाने में मुझे कोई कठिनाई नहीं हुई।
I had no difficulty as Secretary of Defense moving from the Bush administration to the Obama administration.
I had no difficulty as Secretary of Defense moving from the Bush administration to the Obama administration.
मैंने अपनी पूरी जवानी संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका को एक महाशक्ति के रूप में देखा है, एक ऐसा देश जिसे इस रुतबे को बनाए रखने के लिए खर्च करने में कभी कोई संकोच नहीं हुआ। उसे कभी पीछे मुड़कर देखने की ज़रूरत नहीं पड़ी क्योंकि हमारी अर्थव्यवस्था बेहद मजबूत थी।
I've spent my entire adult life with the United States as a superpower and one that had no compunction about spending what it took to sustain that position. And it didn't have to look over its shoulder because our economy was so strong.
I've spent my entire adult life with the United States as a superpower and one that had no compunction about spending what it took to sustain that position. And it didn't have to look over its shoulder because our economy was so strong.